Though she is not suspected by the police, Alex is, as the girls were seen playing around his RV before the capture. Why couldnt Loki identify the dead body as that of Hollys husband? Its always really nice to have that experience where you grow into appreciating a movie. The other couple was fine, both solid performances. That would explain why Loki was driving so recklessly to the hospital. If you want to get the full picture of the story, you have to unite the fragments. He was parked outside of his old house in the camper when the girls came by and got in the camper with him. Youd have to add some sort of in-road, like a conversation she has at a party where she mentions she used to date someone who wanted to be a writer but she broke his heart. If the dogs came by at all. Lets get some answers. I thoroughly enjoyed it and now need to watch this movie again. These factors lead me to believe that the two girls, especially Anna, are potential abusers-to-be, because of their limited speech, the abuse they suffered, and the nature of inevitable violence in the cyclical maze, where abuse encourages more abuse. Prisoners, like Inception, ends on a cliffhanger. I watched prisoners after its release and i was young so it felt just like another movie. Why does that trigger a flashback where she thinks he was there? BOP: Federal Inmates - Federal Bureau of Prisons The Cinemaholic - Facebook In the scene in which Prisoners, directed by sci-fi movie master Denis Villeneuve, reveals that Holly was responsible for the kidnapping, it is also revealed that Taylor was a former victim of the Jones' that actually escaped, and Holly forgot he existed until he appeared in the news. In that time he created a body of work that changed popular music forever and influenced almost every great rock and roll artist to follow him. Murder of Holly Jones - Prime Time Crime Theres a version where he moves the car and sees Hugh down there, and so on. Murder of Holly Jones - Wikipedia Political party: Democrat. Why didnt Alex confess to the police or Keller? The current owners would would have been creeped out. According to WHNT-TV, 37-year-old Holly Debord pleaded guilty in July to the charges stemming from an incident in 2020. So right there in the last names of the two main families, we see more religious references. The last shot of the movie is Loki, at night, hearing a faint whistle. Hi Chris I like your explanation of why Keller was probably saved but when I watched, I assumed he wasnt because he slid down too far and lost. The film has an ensemble cast including Hugh Jackman, Jake Gyllenhaal, Viola Davis, Maria Bello, Terrence Howard, Melissa Leo, and Paul Dano. Company Credits Crimes etc. Holly was once a genuinely loving and caring woman. We know Bob Taylor was abducted by Holly Jones and her husband. Hey hey! You want that for her? It could provide some backstory about Keller but theres nothing concrete enough (at least as far as Im aware) that you could really point to. The pause on Netflix is infuriating. Their plight is immense and it can drive them to do unto others as has been done unto them. They promptly reported her missing, and an "Amber alert" was issued the next morning. Occupation The fastest growing independent movie & tv news website! This can be the complicated nature of someone who has been hurt as substantially as Alex has been hurt. Compare this to other crime thrillers like Silence of the Lambs or Seven or Girl With the Dragon Tattoo. On the character names, I took Keller to be a variation of killer because he hunted, owned a handgun, and was prepared to use extreme violence to protect his family. Unfortunately, Loki doesnt know that. Plus, excellent point that they wouldnt just jump to Oh! Him being so a-type with all that stuff means he has his daughter carry that whistle, and its the whistle that he uses at the end to signal Loki. Franklin, Joys dad, objects to Kellers treatment of Alex, but participates for a time because he feels he has no other option if he wants to get his daughter back. You know hes going to be taken out of the hole. In-roads. Villeneueve even discussed trees in an interview with Indiewire. Yeah, it seems thats the case. She was portrayed by Melissa Leo, who also playedSally in Oblivion. And while Alex may have initially had innocent intentions with Anna and Joy, to pretend he was a child again, free from the burden of his theft, he had to have known bringing them back to Holly wouldnt end well. But his instinct, thoroughness, and curiosity get the better of him. The abusers can only shake their fist at God so long as they assume that all the parents they abduct the children from will have the same re-action to their loss as they did. What follows are the vital details of Prisonersstudied, analyzed, deconstructed, dissected, unraveled, and presented for your review. I must reiterate how spectacular this review was. So the answer to the question of Did Alex actually take Anna and Joy? is yes. Three things that we see come up again and again throughout the film. The length contributes to your analysis of the compounding effects of abduction over time, depicted in the varying lengths of how long they spent in the maze Joy seems the most available afterwards, but Anna is more slow to integrate; then Taylor, who is surprisingly capable (has a house, quite a capable thief, etc) while still being extremely myopic and distressed; and Alex, who is the mostly deeply shut off from the world. I imagine it would have taken some time to make the connection to Hollys husband, if it was ever possible to do so. it may work, but I think theyre mainly just fooling themsves. Thats what Joys remembering. So the star on Det. The way they said it, sounded like a death notification to me. Is arrested as the prime suspect. I never caught what was said in the newspaper. It is frustrating that we dont get some more closure though. The number of prisoners held in private facilities accounts 128,300 inmates US has 1,393,975 male and 111,422 female prisoners US Imprisonment Rate is 450 people per 100.000 residents, 847 for males and 64 for females The majority of the inmates - 16.3% are between 30-34 years of age Prisoners movie review & film summary (2013) | Roger Ebert Investigators from the Texas Attorney General's office walked into Holly's workplace on Tuesday and. Thats really interesting. And what do you know, at the end of the movie, Kellers imprisoned by Holly Jones, Alexs aunt. I believe that Loki will find and rescue Keller because: 1. Regarding Christianity, we hear the Lords Prayer. about what happened to these girls and you DONT TELL US, YOUR AUNT WILL GO TO JAIL too. Im pretty sure it was Keller. Holly offers Keller tea, which would probably be drugged (we later see she kept a jar of drugged liquid in the fridge). They accept what their instincts tell them and both end up playing the hero. | Hi Chris and everyone who has commented. Commenting on the arrest, Police Chief Julian Fantino made an angry plea to government to set up a DNA bank for all software developers. This is done in order to have Prisoners become a narrative maze. Those three movies do the normal thing of stacking information so that as the plot progresses we feel more knowledgeable and empowered about whats going on. Rewatched the movie while reading this and you really nailed it. To the point where they said the center of the entire universe was a gigantic tree named Yggdrasil. Im usually pretty pedantic about things like this. And completely forgot about the David first name. No thats not what happened. Type of Villain Rest In Peace Holly. But keep up the good work! I think we see 4-5 then the father. Mike Tyson made a boxing return in 2020 when he fought fellow Hall of Famer Roy Jones Jr Credit: EPA. Which could explain why there are no fingerprints in the van. I cant remember how much time passes in the movie. Thats cool, thats interesting. Franklin says and believes that he would do anything for his daughter, but ( like Peter in the Bible who acted cowardly when he thought he would act bravely at Christs crucifixion ) Franklin (who thinks he can play the trumpet, but cant) is not a killer. Keller keeps Alex in a box thats similar to a confessional box. The lights in the derelict apartment apparently dont work but plug-in job lights do, OK. Why does no one ever check a door handle before breaking it down or crawling through a window? Does Loki represent a spirituality beyond Christianity? Texas Department of Criminal Justice Thanks. Now imagine Taylor and Alex being there for years and years. Did Hollys husband have more dirt on the priest that could have gotten him in more trouble? We (and Keller) struggle to understand whats going through Alexs mind. Bridger is serving a full . Join Facebook to connect with Holly Jones and others you may know. It seems to be a male figure and not Holly, either. Michael Briere Now: Where is Holly Jones' Killer Today? Update (written by) Cast (in credits order) verified as complete Produced by Music by Jhann Jhannsson Cinematography by Roger Deakins . History. I guess it was made to distract/confuse the viewers. Tired of all the brainwashed/braindead people out thereneed to know there are people out there figuring this out like RFK jr. So many twists and turns. The dude has severe burns and 20+ counts of kidnapping (molestation???) Because Joy and Anna play on the RV, Alex keys in on them. Brilliant analysis. Prisoners (2013) - Plot - IMDb And how do we make sense of the miracles in our lives? He was the 28-year-old from Woodstock charged with Tori Stafford's abduction, rape and murder. Hardcover. Chris, this was a fantastic analysis of a complex story, and dead on. and if so, I guess its just coincidence that Hollys husband had a maze around his neck and that they left mazes in the locked room? Holly Maria Jones (September 14, 1992 - May 12, 2003) [1] was a 10-year-old child abduction and murder victim from Toronto, Ontario, Canada. Loki doesnt have a last name, but we know the meaning of his first name. All he would have been able to see is Holly crouching over the girl. Also in the hospital when Joy says you were there. I imagine its a pretty isolating position as he has lost his sister to the kidnap, his mother to the grief, and his father to his own agenda. Holly Jones: How 10-year-old's murder a decade ago brought a Toronto This is the best analysis I have read. Their sonstill a childdies, causing them tremendous grief. Its a solid theory. Sit in a roadway: I dont think he necessarily minded Keller seeing him. I read a few explanations after watching the movie and this was the best and most cohesive one! No way you find 10 people to give a guilty verdict let alone one when US laws would allow the defense to basically go over every missing kid in the area for the past 20+ years. Declaring it likely that the girls are dead, the parents and Detective Loki all but give-up when Bob commits suicide. I've been taking it for four or five years. Alias Buddy Holly was a singer songwriter from Lubbock Texas who died after a short 18 month career. I also have a question. Anna's father Keller is however convinced that Alex is the culprit, and soon takes him hostage, torturing him for information. Keller Dover wiederum fhrt zu Holly Jones, da er den Verdacht hat, dass Joy dort seine Stimme gehrt haben knnte. Were purposefully left to figure it out on our own. I was so impatient with all the people not talking, but it makes sense now, the priest, bound by his guilt and confession rules, Alex, most likely having been drugged from an early age on which alters your brain and personality, and God knows what else these people did to him and Bob. I didnt find any particularly bad the way you did. Duct tape: I think were supposed to accept it lol. I also think it is highly unlikely that Taylor managed to break into both houses and steal the items without being noticed at all. You have another piece of the puzzle with which to unlock the deeper thematic intentions and questions of Prisoners. Alex drives his RV to the house he had been abducted from in 1987, the home of his actual parents. The album finishes with the very first line from the first song: So I was takin a walk the other day Its a line that begins a situation where Kendrick gets shot and killed. This kind of internal instructional clue is something that didnt really exist until the 20th century and the rise of modernism and post-modernism. Alex, nostalgic about his own childhood, tries to play with the girls in the RV. But also pagan and other spiritual iconography and references. The Colossal Explanation of Prisoners - Colossus hi Chris, enjoyed reading the above just one question: the FBI agents book about Finding the Invisible Man was that about another abductor who was obsessed with mazes and not the crimes committed by Holly and her husband? In addition to her legislative duties, Jones works as the Business Manager for Renz Law LLC. The big issue every character has is with acceptance. Alex Jones/Detective Loki (Prisoners) - Archive of Our Own How do we make sense of the bad in the world? A character whose first scene is talking about Zodiac signs. Gyllenhaal was just OK, not especially convincing. Holly Marie is alive and well and living in Oklahoma, after a family adopted her as a baby. If he was, then he wouldnt have continuously lied to the police and Keller. No one ever says out loud, THAT WAS HER HUSBAND! They could have. Seems like something he would do in private. Prisoners never shows us the abduction or has someone explain outright what happened. The little girls are not the same (one clings to her mother for dear life and the other is stoic)? Someone who seems like the kidnapper but isnt the killer broke into both our homes and took our kids clothes. Especially after Loki pretty much blew off Graces report about someone coming into their house. A maze without an exit. Reporter: Heather Hiscox, from The National, December 19 and Canada Now, December 19-23, 2003. [SPOILERS] Question about Prisoners : r/movies - reddit Nocturnal Animals, through cross-cutting, makes it clear theres a connection between what happens in the book and what happened in the relationship with Gyllenhaal. But again, wow! But, at this point, you know better than to think its coincidence, right? Characters pray. The standard Hollywood police chief who constantly undermines the investigation is so completely overused. We then get the final showdown that involves Kellers imprisonment and Lokis heroics. I think the layman tends to miss out on the motifs but grasps the plot. Because its complicated. I have made a discovery of hidden symbols in movies. Who was the guy in the priests basement? Especially in a building that has so many issues. Holly Deane-Jones reveals her stint in Thailand's famed "Bangkok Hilton Birch was also interesting as a name because birch trees are thought to be resilient, bending but not breaking. There are two more layers that make Prisoners an even deeper kind of cinematic dive. And on his neck, a star that probably represents some other non-Christian religion. All as a best imitation of his abductors. Hed have explained what happened. Prisoners (2013 film) - Wikipedia Almost a hundred years later, it can be pretty seamless. Hey again! He says later says I just wanted to playand he never came.. Fax (601) 932-9077. Same with Loki. In Norse mythology, Lokis a big deal. That theme reinforces itself through motifs such as Darth Vaders black armor, his black cape, and often being shadowed (not to mention the heavy, marching music that feels very imperial and domineering). But sometimes, by shear grace, all the good and bad complications of what people do and think come together to form a hope-filled outcome. https://vimeo.com/manage/videos/733092911. But after testing the film with the ending it has now, everyone decided that was definitely the way to go. Or in the movie Us, we have subterranean beings created by the government. We werent given any other reason for Dover Snrs death, were we? Your basically kidnapping/torturing someone who is going to kill your daughter if they are released. Why didnt the priest report him to the authorities at the time? Similar to how Fight Club is powerful because its not really about Edward Nortons character but rather a deconstruction of individuality in a consumer-driven culture. Like inNocturnal Animals we have three stories being told. holly jones | Flickr Yo Zach! And staring the person down is kind of a legitimate tactic. But giving the audience clues that Keller is facing lengthy prison and Alex is going home Well it is quite the opposite in reality. The Bob Taylor detail was one I didnt include in why response. Huntley, a former school caretaker killed schoolgirls Holly Wells and Jessica Chapman in 2002 after they went missing from a family BBQ. Have we been paying attention to all the clues that point to whether Loki will or wont find Keller? After the police let Alex go, Keller kidnaps Alex. I just finished my second viewing, I saw it a long time ago. Perhaps another theme of the movie is communication. Prisoners (2013) Full Cast & Crew See agents for this cast & crew on IMDbPro Directed by Denis Villeneuve Writing Credits Aaron Guzikowski . Man caught 37 years after escaping Leavenworth prison following 1974 I got the dvd from my local library by chance and watched it and before I did I checked, it got 8.1 score. Holly's husband is the corpse that [] So was he waiting outside of his old house for someone else to play with who never came? I could see something like him initially being reunited but then the DA drawing up charges later. Its a really great movie. The final song on the album is called Duckworth. Without your amazing, insight ful comments I would never have got any of it at all. Excellent review, I enjoyed reading the things I understood, as well as the details I missed out on. Youd worry that hed maybe keep trying to do take kids. . So hes doing what he should do and giving her a chance to surrender. Joy and Anna see the RV while on a walk with their siblings, Ralph and Eliza. Skai fastened a venomous snake over Lokis face, and from it poison dripped. Keller tells Ralph he isnt allowed to leave the house, he has to be an adult stay home and make sure Grace doesnt see the news. So, Loki had been investigating the house that the RV was parked in front of and he found out it was once the home of a couple whose son, Barry Coyler, went missing. Great minds. But also the idea of the maze itself and of trauma, this infinite thing. One of these underground people tells a shocked family, Were Americans. After that information, the title, Us, can be read as US, or U.S., or United States. holly jones prisoners. Its like Hollywood thinks they have conditioned us to just accept anything and call it clever. Hi Chris,what a great review. As for Keller going to prison I mean we would need modern examples of this type of situation. The discussion in the comments is also quite engaging. Alex/Barry's caretaker The two kidnapped girls. To be fair, the idea that the clothes may have been stolen is actually never mentioned in the movie. It serves a meta-purpose to make us aware of how to watch/understand the movie. Federal Inmates. Theres a moment in the movie where Loki is searching for clues in old newspapers and he founds a note of a man, a correctional officer, who commited suicide (allegedly) after his son was abducted. Glad that came through for you! Im not sure about that detail. Alex Jones also refers to a maze. Brilliant article, enjoyed every word of it. Hes burying mannequins in his yard. That unmerited favor that we cannot predict or control. Thanks Chris for your work here! With his English language debut, Villeneuve created a story layered with suspense, thrill, and excitement. Absorbing film, but the one thing that bothers me is that the whole film rides on Alex not talking, and I dont buy it. A god who complicates things for other gods. It references Loki killing Holly as detective David Loki. I wanted to just add one thing! Kind of like when he lifts the dog. We know the girls were interested in the van. Now if Nocturnal Animals didnt have flashbacks, if we only saw Adams read this book and get emotional but otherwise live her life normallythat wouldnt work. The rest are just kind ofdoing their part? 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Watson), additional production assistant (uncredited), special consultant: end credits (uncredited), set production assistant: second unit (uncredited), completion bond representative (uncredited), forensic technical consultant (uncredited), basecamp production assistant: second unit (uncredited) / production assistant (uncredited), global director of motion picture logistics: Altour Travel (uncredited), production assistant: drone unit (uncredited), additional set production assistant (uncredited), production finance controller (uncredited). In their reign, there were only two known survivors, Bob Taylor and Barry. Thus, we know how long he was there. The other maze to be found would be that; Holly drugs her victims with a concoction that may have LSD or similarthe fbi book refers to this and she does as well, when talking to and then forcing Keller to drink. She was elected to her first two-year term in November 2022. And Im pretty sure Holly Joness original kid was named Alex? he was there he visited Hollys home before he realized she was the kidnapper he said he was there to apologize for scaring off Alex and he came in and they talked but he left when he saw the paper saying that Bob killer himself. It would also explain why the surviving victims displayed lack of speech; they were so warped by their drug-induced experiences they were no longer capable of communicatingprisoners in their own minds. But to stop him, the priest ties Hollys husband up and leaves him to die. How fitting we have a character named Grace, a word typically associated with Gods favor. Hey Craig! Once a loving and religious woman, both Holly and her husband's minds soon took a twisted turn when their son died of cancer. Holly Jones 1992-2003 Holly was kidnapped while walking home from a friends house. Mural commemorating child murder victim Holly Jones is coming down A forensic inspection of the cloths however, reveals that the blood belonged to a pig, and then Joy suddenly wakes up. Perhaps it was intended to reflect his personality, peaceable in normal situations, but with a killer instinct ready to take over when pushed by circumstances. Mark Bridger, the former abattoir worker jailed for the sexually motivated murder of five-year-old April Jones, has been attacked in prison. Maybe all of this is in reference to him being the best detective they have and always is able to close the case. CSP-Sacramento is located adjacent to Folsom State Prison. I think thats where I would start if I was going to write about the specific meaning of the snakes. Compare that to Luke, when Luke finally becomes a Jedi, wearing a white outfit (and having more hopeful and exciting music). A funny example is Kendrick Lamars 2017 album, Damn. There was a for sale sign on it so Loki looked it up in case the owners knew anything and found a newspaper clipping that a little boy that used to live there had been kidnapped. Like his sister, Jones has studied Chinese as well. English isnt my first language so I hope this made sense. Please direct any questions regarding the information obtained on this site to the DOC . Lets go through the various types that show up. It is of course not completely impossible because Holly could have cleaned the van thoroughly. What a coincidence that the character with that name ends the movie in a hole in the ground?! Not what was actually going on. Fantino calls for "Software Developer" Data Bank. The implication being that Loki will be as thorough as before and discover Keller. Das Drehbuch schrieb Aaron Guzikowski. So he went to speak with Alexs mom (Barrys mom). Theyre kind of like ghost characters, director Denis Villeneuve said of the recurring motif of trees in the film; as we said earlier, like silent witnesses to the various violent crimes in the movie.